Drive on Holidays at Porto Airport

Pros: Car had a lot of scratches and scarps and took a while to mark off when we picked up and again when we dropped off.

Pros: friendly service

Cons: Service a little slow, but no queue

Pros: Check out ease.

Cons: Extra fee due to flight delay.

Pros: I will choose driveonholidays again in the future.

Cons: Nice people and they give me a brand new car .

Pros: Fast response.

Cons: difficulty finding the company representative at the airport at the arrival

Pros: The staff were attentive.

Cons: Would prefer the petrol tank to be full at the beginning.

Pros: Friendly service.

Cons: n/a

Pros: Car very damaged

Cons: Nice people

Pros: It was efficient and fast.

Cons: They only open at 8am, flights arriving from North America tend to come in a little early. While i was waiting for the shuttle for a pickup i noticed that most car rental companies were picking up customers by 7:30am

Pros: Easy reservation process, no hassle pick up, quick car return process, no issues with the car.

Cons: the instructions provided on where to wait at the Porto airport to be picked up by the rental company were not correct and no one at the rental place answered the phone when we called. It took us one full hour of long distance calls to figure out where was the correct spot to be picked up. Not a good experience.

Pros: They were friendly and informative.

Cons: The car could have been more up to date. I had to oil for the tank as it was very low.

Pros: Well informed.

Cons: No organised queue system. Rush hour people were jumping the queue.

Pros: Friendly

Cons: I have to wait long time to get the car😇

Pros: Local guys are efficient

Cons: Car was, old, all banged up, shop opens late at 8am, delivered the car before die date and could not have reimbursement

Pros: Easy, friendly, organized, calm

Cons: nothing!

Pros: Goede service.

Cons: te lang wachten bij ophalen auto

Pros: Very good service when I picked up the car in Porto office.

Cons: The service rep was very nice but that will be better if his typing speed can be improved.

Pros: Leaving the building. Spent over an hour and a half waiting on a Friday night to collect the car. Not enough staff to deal with the customers.

Cons: How responsive they were when they were informed about the faulty car, they never responded and did nothing which was wonderful.

Pros: Quick and efficient service by staff at pick up and drop off. Friendly and professional at both ends.

Cons: Car tires were in poor condition and the windshield wipers were old and ragged causing us severe trouble seeing in the constant rain during our stay

Pros: Drop off easy and car very inexpensive.

Cons: Everything I will never use Discovercars or Drive on Holidays again.

Pros: Quick & professional.

Pros: Staff was very informative and pleasant and efficient once you got through the line.

Cons: I paid extra to have a GPS and the device was of no use to me. It had old maps and would not accept address I would put in. I had to rely on my telephone GPS. Even on the last day I know my way to the airport quite well and decided to test it out and it gave me incorrect information to the airport . Very disappointed that I explained to your employee and he said it was the device brand. No excuse!

Pros: It's agents.

Pros: They were helpful and courteous for the main part.

Cons: One agent was not understanding when we were late turning the car in.When asked to provide an exact time to return a car in a foreign country the estimate is exactly that.You don’t know how long it will take to get there,how fast you can drive,traffic patterns,etc.The agent was almost threatening.Completely unnecessary and inappropriate.

Pros: Dropping off the car was easy and the person was very helpful

Cons: Picking up the car the person behind the desk was rude curt and not helpful at all

Pros: Customer svc. Location

Cons: They didn't have the original vehicle I requested.

Pros: Customer service from the agents we dealt with.

Cons: the rental car provided. needed a major tune up.

Pros: The operator at the delivery desk was friendly and very helpful. He made the process of picking the car up easy.

Cons: The pick up location listed on the email did not exist and I had to call to find out where I had to meet the representative. The operator at the delivery desk was not as friendly or attentive as I would expect from someone working in the service industry.

Pros: At the rental station, staff was clear about terms & got our rental setup done with ease.

Cons: Had difficulty tracking down the representative at the airport (no clear direction or signage was provided to indicate meeting point; it took us 20 minutes to connect & get into the shuttle). That required 3 phone calls to the company to arrange. Also, we were pressured by the rental agent to purchase additional top line damage coverage over & above what the Discover site provided at booking, which nearly doubled the cost.

Cons: nothing happened as planned and never seen any money back

Cons: I went straight to the office but later on I tried to check at the aiirport the representative to find him when coming next time but could not see anyone.

Pros: Very good car

Cons: Tried to get me to pay for extra insurance despite having full cover

Pros: Friendly and efficient

Pros: Very efficient operation, everyone knew what they were doing.

Cons: The first car we rented had bad brakes so we had to drive back to Porto the next day to exchange it for a different car.

Pros: Ich möchte eine Beschwerde über das Personal abgeben. Es ist etwas passiert, was nicht normal ist: Meine Frau hat ihre Brille im Handschuhfach des Autos vergessen und mein Sohn auf dem Rücksitz. Nach dem Abflug von Portugal in die Schweiz bemerkten sie im Flugzeug, dass meine Brille fehlte. Nach der Landung in Genf rief ich bei Drive Holiday an, um zu fragen, ob das Auto an andere Kunden ausgeliefert worden sei, und man bestätigte mir, dass das Auto noch auf dem Gelände stehe.

Cons: Also habe ich nach der Brille gefragt. Die Antwort war, dass sich keine Brille im Auto befand. Also habe ich die Dame am Telefon gefragt, ob ich Ihrem Service wieder vertrauen kann. Das Auto muss gesaugt werden, bevor es an einen anderen Kunden übergeben wird. Normalerweise müssten die Angaben vorhanden sein. Mehr habe ich nicht zu sagen. Mit dem Auto bin ich zufrieden, aber den Leuten, die dort arbeiten, traue ich nicht.

Cons: Long delay in providing airport to rental office transfer

Pros: Courteous and prompt.

Pros: They prioritised us because we had a baby

Cons: Nothing

Pros: The agents are friendly and detailed on the terms of the rental.

Cons: Some of the parts of the car such as how to open the gasoline cover cap was a bit foreign to us. It would be great if the agent can show us stuff like that during the rental.

Pros: Very friendly and helpful staff. Explained everything (all options) on pick up very clearly.

Cons: Driving a car that had been previously scratched/damaged - albeit not too seriously.

Pros: personnel were very attentive

Cons: Car was a little tired 1st Mercedes I ever rented without cruise control

Pros: Nice vehicle; nice, helpful agents.

Pros: Had to wait to pick up the car as it was exceptionally busy but when I was seen to they were quick and efficient.

Cons: Nothing bad

Pros: They met expectations that one would normally associate with a premium rental company

Cons: Nothing with the agents. It was very difficult to locate the drop off site

Pros: I loved the car I got. It was even a convertible lol. Good car good price!

Pros: rep was nice and explained everything clearelly

Cons: car was run down, we felt we ended up with the worse car in the garage

Pros: J'ai eu un problème avec la première voiture que l'on m'a donné et ils m'ont changé de voiture en un rien de temps sans poser de questions. Très efficaces.

Cons: La voiture aurait pu être plus propre, traces de pieds côté intérieur du pare-brise très moyen et visibilité genante par temps de pluie du a la saleté du pare-brise intérieur

Pros: The car was perfect. Two points that bring down the score: 1. The voucher said to go to the meeting point in the terminal. There was nobody there so we had to call. We were instructed to go to another point. Also, nobody there. We found a man outside the terminal who told us that the shuttle bus was too busy and it would take 30' so it was best to walk to the office, 1 Km further. Not nice when arriving with heavy luggage. 2. Long wait at the check-in. Understaffed to process the many bookings

Pros: Very friendly and great service.

Cons: some features of the car were not working ( parking sensors ), and the light of service was whole time on, and sometimes was appearing/disappearing the light for the engine ( yellow one )

Pros: Car was clean and expected model

Cons: Extremely slow line (over an hour to pickup). As soon as we drove off the lot the check tire light came on. We filled up with air and it remained on but looked fine. A few days later we looked and the tire was completely flat with NO SPARE in the car. Taxi sent by DOH took over 2 hours to arrive. Representatives on phone were not sympathetic and did not follow through with requested actions leaving me to deal with an angry taxi driver via the phone

Pros: The maintenance light on the dashboard turned on and we had to stop and check to be sure if the car was OK.

Pros: Not a lot.

Cons: Bad service.

Pros: practically everything

Cons: thing really

Pros: Speed of service

Cons: Extra payments requested not specified when showing the rental agreement.

Pros: Excellent service across the board

Cons: The only criticism I have is the meeting point was not clear so took 10-15 minutes to find the rep. Information should be updated on documentation.

Pros: Economical

Cons: Car condition- there was alot of scratches

Cons: Have to pay 30 euros to deliver the car "early" (06:30).

Pros: There was a line to pick up the car, but it moved fast and the car was ready. Drop off was quick.

Pros: Very good staff who were clear and friendly. There was no wait time to be seen on arrival.

Cons: I have no complaints about Drive on Holidays.

Pros: The team was extremely nice and helped us get on our way quickly.

Cons: The car provided had many issues, superficially and while driving we had engine maintenance light come up. Luckily it wasn’t serious but made us alert of the car throughout the whole trip. We also had to stop by the office to make sure everything was ok.

Pros: Fast and trustworthy

Cons: Drop off People you can trust.

Pros: Amazing service, quick and efficient, well done to Porto team

Pros: The car

Cons: Too many talk about how should i get an insurance

Pros: Very nice and thorough

Cons: Great experience

Pros: When we eventually found the agent, everything was efficient from there

Cons: As ever with rental companies, you buy insurance and still when you go to pick up the car, you are been asked to buy more insurance, and the agent always tries to leave the lmpression you are not insured.

Pros: Car was clean and tidy, very friendly staff,

Cons: Car broke down 12 days into a 14 days rental. They made me travel almost 300km to get another vehicle, even though I pleaded with them that I had plans that couldn’t be cancelled, however they couldn’t care less. Purchased full insurance from them as I didn’t want any surprise charges and ended up having 1900 euros blocked on my card on top of the 308 euros insurance for 14 days. The staff at Porto airport are friendly and helpful, however telephone operator and company policy makes NO GO ZONE

Pros: The people at Drive On Holidays were just following the instructions of their big bosses regarding our breakdown incident. They weren’t to be faulted. Whoever makes the policies to drive back to where we originally rented the car (2.5 hours each way) is.

Cons: Having to take a taxi from where our car broke down 2.5 hours north back to Porto, pick up a replacement car and drive back to where we broke down and then an additional hour south of there to where our hotel was. The replacement car was fine, but this process ruined a whole day of our trip due to this policy implemented by the big boss.

Pros: Quick pickup procedure, no lines

Cons: Hard to find the representative in the arrivals hall Despite extra insurance I paid to Discover Card, the Drive-on Holiday representative tried to sell more insurance at pickup, she made it seem I was not properly insured without it, very confusing and annoying Car had a sign that maintenance was needed

Pros: Excellent, friendly, quick and efficient service from all staff members that we encountered at both pick up and drop off

Cons: Everything was great!

Pros: Muy bien todo

Cons: No encontré fácilmente el mostrador, ya que me fui caminando desde el aeropuerto

Pros: the car

Cons: the amount requiried for the coverage

Pros: Excellent service through pick up and drop off, very helpful staff

Cons: The vehicle, it wasn't clean inside also every single panel was dented, and in general a poor excuse for a hire car given the price charged. It done the job just expensively!!!

Pros: Just that it is a very busy time of the year. Overall good

Cons: Friendly

Pros: Easy to find

Cons: Unexpected costs

Pros: The staff were very thorough and helpful. Great attention to detail and they explained everything.

Pros: Drive on Holidays staff was incredibly nice and helpful. They were very professional and answered all the questions.

Cons: Everything went well and smooth.

Pros: Staff was amazing. A big recommendation is to put your flight number into the booking in the event your flight is delayed which is happening often. My flight was supposed to get in at 11:30pm and I didn’t land until 3am and thankfully the amazing staff member was there to pick us up from baggage claim. Otherwise we would’ve had to wait to pick up the car until 8am

Pros: Terrible

Cons: Terrible

Pros: Nothing, I was given 3 different cars and all had engine problems. They were not willing to give me time back. I was there on business smd missed gettings stuff done.

Pros: Nothing wrong, you get what you pay for

Cons: The car was was very dirty inside, lots of stains in the upholstery. The good thing was that they didn't care if I did extra damage when I returned the car.

Pros: Good value, easy to check in and check out.

Cons: I wish the USB connection for my car worked so I could use my phone's navigation system and keep the battery charged. I think I got the car in the worst shape on the lot.

Pros: Fast service at the agency.

Cons: The air cordition of the car was not working, i drove almost 3000km with temperatures between 25-40 degrees. The wheels of the car were making noise when i drove between 30-70km/h.

Pros: They were very easy to deal with, quick, professional and very friendly.

Cons: Nothing

Pros: The car was good and the drop off was simple and quick, they even offered to drop us at the airport.

Cons: The pick up was a nightmare, the time spent on each customer was absurd with many desk with 2 agents to handle one customer. There was no complexity for my part and the rental agent spent more than 15 minutes with me just to do the paperwork and deliver the keys... Very old school manual amateur pick up process.

Pros: Quick and easy

Cons: Price: the deposit they asked for was 2100, so high my credit card allowance was not enough. They put it so high on purpose, to steal you a full policy that is more than the cost of the car. The price for car seats is also pretty high for what they give you.

Pros: pick-up and drop-off car efficiency

Cons: car cleanliness.

Pros: Friendly service, we were picked up reasonably quickly when I finally found a telephone number that was answered

Cons: No one to greet us at arrivals

Cons: You require a credit card.

Pros: Professional, friendly staff

Pros: seamed a good crew till....

Cons: very unpleasant and aggressive conversation about the insurance provided by Discover Cars. It was not valid he said.. Wanted me absolutely to pay 180 Euro's for coverage and threatened that my 1500 Euro's would be kept if the car had a scratch (it was full of it when we got it dow...)

Pros: Good value

Cons: Very very old car, ocver 200,000 kms on the vehicle. Never had such an old vehicle for hire. So worried sabout whether it would break down...... it didn't.

Pros: Knowledgeable, friendly staff. The gentleman that assisted me, went so far as to explain the different toll plazas and billing practices. This helped me decide that paying the 2 euros a day for the toll reader was a good value, since we racked up nearly 90 euros in tolls.

Cons: Pick up process was a bit long, due to several people picking up at the same time and some of them having issues that took longer to resolve.

Pros: Relatively straightforward pick up and drop off

Cons: We got a car with no luggage cover because it had been broken. Very frustrating as part of the point of renting a car is you have a safe place to store your valuables that is out of sight. We had to improvise our own luggage cover. The rental company, rather than doing anything to recognize this inconvenience, merely asked for our itinerary and told us we would be fine based on the places we were headed.

Pros: just the quick it was to return the car

Cons: there was no car at the airport as was advised. the young lady waiting was rude and did shout at customers. She made us with young child and bags walk 18 minhtes as she claimed that they did not had anyone to collect us from the airport. the car was dirty and there was no water on windscreen. the tires need inflating waited 1h for the car to be delivered at the office. very slow customer services

Cons: The car was given to me without water in the radiator and wipers

Pros: Muito mão.

Cons: Não gostei nada

Pros: Great service, staff spoke English

Cons: A little bit of wait to get bus to pick up car

Pros: Best deal I could find every time

Cons: Nothing

Pros: Service light came on 3 days later. Was informed not to worry .

Cons: Car interior dirty, made us pay for full coverage after i showed proof paid on discover site. No wifi hotspot after paid for on discover site. Big zero score.

Pros: Nice staff, smooth pick up

Cons: Too expensive

Cons: Vehicle car wash was mediocre at best

Pros: New car provided, swiftly made ready and professional service with smile

Cons: Nothing

Pros: Veículo semi-novo.

Cons: Demora no traslado e para entregar o veículo todo batido, cheio de amassados, foi entregue mau lavado.

Pros: The staff at Lisbon where I swapped the car were great, the young lady at the Porto brach was very shocked and sympathetic.

Cons: The fact that I was supplied a car in a dangerous condition, the fact that I had to pay for fuel and tolls to get it sorted.

Pros: Poor service , cars poor quality And dirty

Cons: Will never use them again

Pros: Service impeccable. Personnel très à l’écoute.

Pros: Friendly staff

Cons: car had damage on every corner bumpers and rims

Pros: The representatives were efficient and the overall process was quite easy.

Cons: I wasted a lot of time finding the location where I needed to be picked up and waited a while for the driver to arrive (not his fault, it was due to a traffic jam). However, this then accumulated a large group and made the time spent picking up a car a bit frustrating. Especially, when traveling with kids.

Pros: Very friendly an efficient

Cons: Very busy, long waiting time

Pros: Only the whipers of the car did not function correctly. They get stuck now and then in middle of window. We forget to tell.

Pros: They know what they doing and get you going quickly

Pros: Very friendly and helpful staff, really good quality hire cars. I've used them a few times, always impressed

Pros: Nothing

Cons: I have been charged for an included additional driver and still not received the refund. Huge waiting at pick-up Car dirty Agents were terribly rude not helping Extremely bad service I will never rent from them again

Pros: atendimento e simpatia das pessoas

Cons: encontrar o ponto de encontro, que não existe onde dizem; o café central não se chama assim; o atendimento telefónico (não conseguimos falar com ninguém para nos orientar); falta de informação

Pros: Friendly and straightforward!

Pros: They provided good and simple desk time and gave good explanation about the car and roadways to use. Had a good time at desk

Cons: There is no clear instructions to where to take the transfer bus. They mentioned the meet-up point near some cafe. But actually I need to go out of arrival hall and wait at the pick up point for rentals cars. Better if they put sign over like other companies

Pros: The car need a service, due the mileage. Front and back blade windscreen need replacement!

Cons: Nothing

Cons: The car was below standard. Service was overdue by over 100 days, windscreen wipers needed changing and oil warning light was on and message requesting oil top up constantly appearing

Pros: The service, very easy and fast

Cons: Nothing until now

Pros: Fast Email replies

Cons: Absolutely not Satisfied with cleanliness of the vehicle

Pros: foi tudo em ordem

Cons: a carrinha estava em pessimas condições externas ainda bem que mecanica estava em ordem e não afetou o uso

Pros: Nothing - no phone in the terminal - no shuttle bus - taxi to the hotel -taxi back the day after- dirty car with bird droppings - and fairly word front left tyre - I had drown the attention of the person that had provided us the car - he assured me that the car is inspected by experts and its roadworthy - I watched a car being returned from rental it was washed and placed back on the rental line -

Cons: Needed to confront the desk person who accused me of lying as he claimed that the site was maned until 130 am - its true yet we called the office in London and been told that they cant help - very frustrating experience - now we need to claim a refund and and deal with some more hassle

Pros: 🤔 people were Pleasant enough

Cons: When I arrived couldn’t find mine booking, then was given the wrong car then was told they didn’t have my car then they did but needed a clean inside. When the car was ready after about 30 minutes it was still dirty inside, windows where dirty inside, and car was dirty outside, and had bad damage all down one side, looked like it had been sitting somewhere waiting to be fixed. Car had a bad clutch smell when driving

Pros: The people at Drive on Holidays were great. Very efficient and pleasant

Cons: The tire pressure on the car was very, very low and obviously not checked before handing the car over to me.

Pros: Friendly attentive service professional.

Cons: Signage was not clear how to return car into building

Pros: The car was old.

Pros: I had problems with the car. AC didnt work.

Pros: Price quality ratio, a car of two years old but still in good driving conditions but at unbeatable price. Quick pick up at airport Porto, office close, very quick delivery, and drop off. One of the best experiences with car rental. From airplane to leaving with car was less then 2 hours. Top.

Cons: Good friendly service, pick up, drop off, delivery car, all smooth.

Pros: Flexibility of extending the rental and drop off time

Pros: Very easy

Cons: There was no part of the service i didn't like

Pros: Pneu usé…ayant eu une crevaison avec aucune assistance à 20h3et impossible d’accéder à la roue de secours qui était condamné…. Et j’ai eu seulement une assistance le lendemain aux horaires de bureau (8h-20h) Véhicule sale extérieur et intérieur Défaut de reconnaissance des clées

Cons: Would nog give a car with empty tank late in the evening. We didn't care because we know the country...

Cons: The Peugeot 208 didn’t have isofix !!!

Cons: Noone was waiting for us in the point designated. Had to spend 20 minutes asking around.

Pros: The low rate compared to rental companies including the insurance. And the support provided when changing the booking.

Pros: The team smile.

Cons: The high price.

Pros: fast, nice people, good service.

Pros: Gentlemen that received the car was friendly and helpful at 5 am .

Cons: Premesses, staff , noise while awaiting for the vehicle for an hour and car condition

Pros: La gentilesse et l'amabilité des agents aux comptoirs, surtout un dénommé Hugo. Il a été clair bet et précis dans ses explications concernant la voiture et les assurances à prendre ou pas. De nos jours, il n'y a plus de temps pour rien alors que cet agent à été très disponible et très efficace.

Cons: La propreté de la voiture laissait un peu à désirer de même de son état général....

Pros: Personal is friendly and polite, despite I have been furious with my experience.

Cons: NO WORKING PHONE NUMBER ON VAUCHER! Called, provided number, voicemail office closed. Called Discover cars no answer, auto droped off call. 5 times consecutive. 2 hours asking and walking around airport. At the end agent from competing rental agency called the guy who picked me up, as he knew him personaly. Why there is nobody answering phone at the time when reservation is marked for pick up? Fix this, otherwise guys do decent job. And no key safe to leave the car out of hours!!!!!!!

Cons: they didn't warn me that the radio antenna was disappeared before leaving ...

Pros: Online everything was fine.

Cons: When picking up the vehicle, the agency made so much pressure for me to buy their own insurance as if not, I would need to retain 3500€ from my credit card that I bought and the final cost got the double if the internet advert. Not good at all.

Pros: Efficient team, quick to pickup .

Cons: Stealth charge to drop off vehicle, took about 20 minutes to find the rep at the airport.

Pros: DON'T RECOMMEND!!!

Cons: The car is delivered in a dark tight shed, the car is wet, making it difficult to notice dents present everywhere, they were dishonest when charging for a tiny, already present dent. You must be very careful when renting a car with this company.

Pros: your agents are very knowledgeable and efficient

Cons: The pick up at the airport was a little confusing

Pros: took longer than usual to get car

Cons: Car computer showed low tire pressure which I pointed out to the agent. He reset computer rather than checking the pressure. I had to add air to tire twice as it was at 0.8 Bar.

Pros: fast and spoke English

Cons: unfortunately car broke down , however customer service was reached immediately and they looked after everything very quickly and treated us well

Pros: auto nuova, pulita. All'arrivo il personale gentile ed efficiente

Cons: Ho prenotato attraverso www.discovercarhire ed ho fatto un'assicurazione di 73,75 che al banco di Drive on Holidays mi hanno detto che non serviva a niente, che avrei dovuto fare un'altra assicurazone da loro. All'accoglienza l'impiegata poco gentile, non si sforzava di capire

Pros: Quick and simple pick up and drop off of the car.

Cons: The communication wasn't as good since the wait time on the phone was long and since it took multiple attempts to get a hold of someone.

Pros: quick, efficient service

Cons: nothing to date, to complain about

Pros: they were fairly fast

Cons: No windshield wiper liquid in the car

Pros: Friendly and understanding after a very long flight. Did not try to sell us unwanted extras.

Cons: There was nothing we did not like about the service.

Pros: Friendly, professional and of course very efficient. But most important they are not a fly by night outfit that try to nail the customer for all kinds of things. there are many of those in Porto. I am a repeat customer ad so are some of my friends.

Pros: The location is very close to the Porto Airport. They have a nice drive in facility in a warehouse area where other car rental companies operate. The facility is clean, well lit and professional looking.

Cons: I was a little concerned in the beginning about the 1100 EU security deposit. I got my money refunded in the end so no real worry. The car also had some minor plastic trim damage on the left rear door. I was hoping they could help me with getting the Android Auto to work in my car but they could not help. The car USB charging was low amperage so I could not keep my phone charged up enough while navigating. I could not get my Samsung S9 to project the Android Auto Waze or Google Map on the screen

Pros: Excellent and helpful customer service on phone and in person

Pros: service was good

Cons: had to pay for tire please call 0016134343162 need to speak to someone about this matter. thanks

Pros: Nothing. I asked for an Polo. I did not get one! I asked for a ful full tank. I did not get one. The tank was EMPTY!

Pros: welcome during the take-over

Cons: alert problem oïl Car not véry clean

Pros: the airport attendant is profissional and lovely

Pros: The weather.

Cons: Car not in the best condition, pushy salesmen tactics

Pros: Nothing!

Cons: Provided a car with a motor breakdown Do not provided a replacement car Provided the worst customer service when the car broke down. Treated as stupid and untrustworthy The car breaking down ruined the last 3 days of our vacation and costed us additional costs that were not reimbursed apart from not getting reimbursed for the last 3 days were we did not have a car :-(